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	<title>Comments on: The AP lied to (and about) Barrett Rifles</title>
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		<title>By: SayUncle &#187; Talking to the press</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-166355</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle &#187; Talking to the press</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 15:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I don&#8217;t trust them to fully represent the real reasons they&#8217;re interested in hearing from me (ask Ronnie Barrett) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: SayUncle &#187; Calling all gun nuts</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-42610</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle &#187; Calling all gun nuts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] So, head on over and make yourself heard. I like Kevin&#8217;s question but think it needs some specific examples, like the press lying to/about Barrett; or CNN breaking the law by transferring a rifle over state lines (though the fact they didn&#8217;t do it willfully means no prosecution but they did, in fact, assert that what they did was legal); or that time they lied and said a Glock was a plastic gun that could beat metal detectors at the Capitol Building; Or that one time at band camp . . . [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] So, head on over and make yourself heard. I like Kevin&#8217;s question but think it needs some specific examples, like the press lying to/about Barrett; or CNN breaking the law by transferring a rifle over state lines (though the fact they didn&#8217;t do it willfully means no prosecution but they did, in fact, assert that what they did was legal); or that time they lied and said a Glock was a plastic gun that could beat metal detectors at the Capitol Building; Or that one time at band camp . . . [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Erickson</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-40388</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Erickson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 16:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shame on you.  I read the French article that totaly misrepresented the .50 cal Barrett firearm, and I read your &quot;correction&quot;.  To be sure, my faith in the accuracy of your publication has declined.  We would appreciate more accurate and unbiased reporting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shame on you.  I read the French article that totaly misrepresented the .50 cal Barrett firearm, and I read your &#8220;correction&#8221;.  To be sure, my faith in the accuracy of your publication has declined.  We would appreciate more accurate and unbiased reporting.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle &#187; More on Barrett</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-40377</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle &#187; More on Barrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 13:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In light of the AP lying to Barrett and repeating anti-gun falsehoods, I&#8217;d like to encourage readers to contact the AP and voice their concerns. Here&#8217;s their contact page. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In light of the AP lying to Barrett and repeating anti-gun falsehoods, I&#8217;d like to encourage readers to contact the AP and voice their concerns. Here&#8217;s their contact page. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Hansen</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-40301</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2005 23:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Such misrepresentation and a zeal to sensationalize regardless of facts by newspapers and other news media should not come as a surprise. As a Manager of a Control Tower in Montana, I was called out from home one night because two aircraft had collided on a taxiway in the dark. Clearly, pilot error. As I passed the also, female Reporter, calling in her story on the phone, I heard her say, &quot;Two airplanes collided on the runway.&quot; I interupted her by saying, :&quot;Excuse me. But those two aircraft collided on the taxiway, not the runway.&quot; Her response...&quot;Taxiway, runway, what&#039;s the difference?&quot; A sad commentary on the credibility of the news media at any level. And lately, haven&#039;t we seen even more serious &quot;mistakes&quot; involving reporters and &quot;Talking Heads&quot; even higher on the media food chair...Dan Rather? Why are we then surprised at this kind of purposeful propganda?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Such misrepresentation and a zeal to sensationalize regardless of facts by newspapers and other news media should not come as a surprise. As a Manager of a Control Tower in Montana, I was called out from home one night because two aircraft had collided on a taxiway in the dark. Clearly, pilot error. As I passed the also, female Reporter, calling in her story on the phone, I heard her say, &#8220;Two airplanes collided on the runway.&#8221; I interupted her by saying, :&#8221;Excuse me. But those two aircraft collided on the taxiway, not the runway.&#8221; Her response&#8230;&#8221;Taxiway, runway, what&#8217;s the difference?&#8221; A sad commentary on the credibility of the news media at any level. And lately, haven&#8217;t we seen even more serious &#8220;mistakes&#8221; involving reporters and &#8220;Talking Heads&#8221; even higher on the media food chair&#8230;Dan Rather? Why are we then surprised at this kind of purposeful propganda?</p>
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		<title>By: Resistance is futile!</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39935</link>
		<dc:creator>Resistance is futile!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Carnival of Cordite #40&lt;/strong&gt;

Greetings everyone! Time for the Carnival of Cordite! Unfortunately, time is a luxury I don&#039;t have this week. Therefore, this week&#039;s carnival is going to be done in super quick link and go mode. It&#039;s not a slight against contributors</description>
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<p>Greetings everyone! Time for the Carnival of Cordite! Unfortunately, time is a luxury I don&#8217;t have this week. Therefore, this week&#8217;s carnival is going to be done in super quick link and go mode. It&#8217;s not a slight against contributors</p>
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		<title>By: AST</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39868</link>
		<dc:creator>AST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 21:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is how most young reporters would act these days.  Companies involved in politically incorrect but legal businesses should avoid dealing with such jerks and communicate only through press releases and public relations advisers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is how most young reporters would act these days.  Companies involved in politically incorrect but legal businesses should avoid dealing with such jerks and communicate only through press releases and public relations advisers.</p>
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		<title>By: James Caldwell</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39840</link>
		<dc:creator>James Caldwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um cannot sue actually</description>
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		<title>By: James Caldwell</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39838</link>
		<dc:creator>James Caldwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When doing an interview bring your own camcoder and record all that is said. You can sue but you can distribute the film so that others know what is what. I&#039;ve seen damn near still frames cut out of a video and spliced back in to make someone look irrational/stupid/etc.

Also if it&#039;s a video interview put a clock in the scene so both your camera and theres will be forced to catch it. Makes it a bit difficult for them to say your&#039;s was modified when there&#039;s blurs or crops it out. 

Even with all that I&#039;d not have trusted the major or local media, too much past history of crap like this. 

BTW military.com is carrying AP crap which IMHO makes them one with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When doing an interview bring your own camcoder and record all that is said. You can sue but you can distribute the film so that others know what is what. I&#8217;ve seen damn near still frames cut out of a video and spliced back in to make someone look irrational/stupid/etc.</p>
<p>Also if it&#8217;s a video interview put a clock in the scene so both your camera and theres will be forced to catch it. Makes it a bit difficult for them to say your&#8217;s was modified when there&#8217;s blurs or crops it out. </p>
<p>Even with all that I&#8217;d not have trusted the major or local media, too much past history of crap like this. </p>
<p>BTW military.com is carrying AP crap which IMHO makes them one with them.</p>
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		<title>By: derek rose</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39835</link>
		<dc:creator>derek rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 20:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, she made a mistake on the tanks. And I think the Michael Marks pdf I just read is a pretty thorough deconstruction of the article. But given that Barrett and the company are just &lt;i&gt;finalists&lt;/i&gt; for the company/executive of the year awards, that doesn&#039;t really strike me as a big ommission either. 

I don&#039;t understand your point about California, sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, she made a mistake on the tanks. And I think the Michael Marks pdf I just read is a pretty thorough deconstruction of the article. But given that Barrett and the company are just <i>finalists</i> for the company/executive of the year awards, that doesn&#8217;t really strike me as a big ommission either. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand your point about California, sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39834</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The very first sentence you quoted has been retracted and is likely intended to give the rifles a scare factor.  OK, so fine about discovery. What about executive of the year?  exporter of the year?  Seems those would be pretty important in a business feature.

&lt;blockquote&gt;When legislators are talking about banning or regulating a business’ product&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yet no mention of how that, say, affects business?  Like the fact he has refused to business with the state of California since they banned 50 caliber rifles?  Just sayin&#039;.

BTW, glad you seem to agree on her forthrightness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The very first sentence you quoted has been retracted and is likely intended to give the rifles a scare factor.  OK, so fine about discovery. What about executive of the year?  exporter of the year?  Seems those would be pretty important in a business feature.</p>
<blockquote><p>When legislators are talking about banning or regulating a business’ product</p></blockquote>
<p>Yet no mention of how that, say, affects business?  Like the fact he has refused to business with the state of California since they banned 50 caliber rifles?  Just sayin&#8217;.</p>
<p>BTW, glad you seem to agree on her forthrightness.</p>
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		<title>By: derek rose</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39832</link>
		<dc:creator>derek rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 19:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It talks about sales, orders, number of employees and how the company was founded ... as well as its critics and legislative challenges.  To me, that says &quot;business feature.&quot; Read the first three paragraphs:

&lt;blockquote&gt;MURFREESBORO — When U.S. soldiers need to penetrate a tank&#039;s armor from a mile away, they count on a weapon that evolved from the garage tinkering of a former wedding photographer.

The .50-caliber rifle created by Ronnie Barrett and sold by his company, Barrett Firearms Manufacturing Inc., is the most powerful firearm civilians can buy. It weighs about 30 pounds and can hit targets up to 2,000 yards away with armor-piercing bullets.
	
That kind of power has drawn a customer base of gun enthusiasts, Hollywood actors and Barrett&#039;s most loyal buyer, the U.S. military, which has been buying Barrett&#039;s rifles since the 1980s and using them in combat from the 1991 Gulf War to the present.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The fact that the story omitted that Barrett is being featured by the Discovery Channel... yawn. I don&#039;t really see that as a big deal to make a fuss over.

When legislators are talking about banning or regulating a business&#039; product, I don&#039;t see how you can draw a clear distinction between &quot;political&quot; story and a business story. Would a business story on the Philip Morris in 2000 have been fair or honest if it omitted the huge political/legal challenges facing the company?

I&#039;m not totally defending the reporter here, especially if she told Goodwin the article would just have a &quot;brief&quot; description of legislative issues. (We don&#039;t know French&#039;s side of the story, however) But you always try to be up-front and forthright with people; she should have made it clear that the story would quote Barrett&#039;s critics. 

Still, Goodwin&#039;s email seems just unbelievably naive, especially for a media relations manager. Of course she wasn&#039;t going to give him a copy of the story for review ... that&#039;s a huge journalistic no-no, something she might even be fired for doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It talks about sales, orders, number of employees and how the company was founded &#8230; as well as its critics and legislative challenges.  To me, that says &#8220;business feature.&#8221; Read the first three paragraphs:</p>
<blockquote><p>MURFREESBORO — When U.S. soldiers need to penetrate a tank&#8217;s armor from a mile away, they count on a weapon that evolved from the garage tinkering of a former wedding photographer.</p>
<p>The .50-caliber rifle created by Ronnie Barrett and sold by his company, Barrett Firearms Manufacturing Inc., is the most powerful firearm civilians can buy. It weighs about 30 pounds and can hit targets up to 2,000 yards away with armor-piercing bullets.</p>
<p>That kind of power has drawn a customer base of gun enthusiasts, Hollywood actors and Barrett&#8217;s most loyal buyer, the U.S. military, which has been buying Barrett&#8217;s rifles since the 1980s and using them in combat from the 1991 Gulf War to the present.</p></blockquote>
<p>The fact that the story omitted that Barrett is being featured by the Discovery Channel&#8230; yawn. I don&#8217;t really see that as a big deal to make a fuss over.</p>
<p>When legislators are talking about banning or regulating a business&#8217; product, I don&#8217;t see how you can draw a clear distinction between &#8220;political&#8221; story and a business story. Would a business story on the Philip Morris in 2000 have been fair or honest if it omitted the huge political/legal challenges facing the company?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not totally defending the reporter here, especially if she told Goodwin the article would just have a &#8220;brief&#8221; description of legislative issues. (We don&#8217;t know French&#8217;s side of the story, however) But you always try to be up-front and forthright with people; she should have made it clear that the story would quote Barrett&#8217;s critics. </p>
<p>Still, Goodwin&#8217;s email seems just unbelievably naive, especially for a media relations manager. Of course she wasn&#8217;t going to give him a copy of the story for review &#8230; that&#8217;s a huge journalistic no-no, something she might even be fired for doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dolan</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39823</link>
		<dc:creator>Dolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 18:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>derek, that had about as much to do with business as a horse at a water polo meet.  The main thrust was political opinion and any buisiness was incidental.

TANSTAFL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>derek, that had about as much to do with business as a horse at a water polo meet.  The main thrust was political opinion and any buisiness was incidental.</p>
<p>TANSTAFL</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39822</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Derek, Then why omit the business info about barrett&#039;s accomplishments? and why specifically saying that discussion of legislation would  be brief when it wasn&#039;t?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Derek, Then why omit the business info about barrett&#8217;s accomplishments? and why specifically saying that discussion of legislation would  be brief when it wasn&#8217;t?</p>
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		<title>By: John Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39821</link>
		<dc:creator>John Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About &quot;spoiling&quot; meat: it has been a long time since the Western dominated both big and little screens, but surely someone could point to the Sharps &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Buffalo&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; Rifle, used by those (such as BIll Cody) who contracted to supply meat to the Army. 
 
Too, don&#039;t be too quick to blame the reporter. She may have written two thousand words, of which the &quot;layers of editors and fact-checkers&quot; the MSM claims may have selected less than half to print. Likely not, but possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About &#8220;spoiling&#8221; meat: it has been a long time since the Western dominated both big and little screens, but surely someone could point to the Sharps <i><b>Buffalo</b></i> Rifle, used by those (such as BIll Cody) who contracted to supply meat to the Army. </p>
<p>Too, don&#8217;t be too quick to blame the reporter. She may have written two thousand words, of which the &#8220;layers of editors and fact-checkers&#8221; the MSM claims may have selected less than half to print. Likely not, but possible.</p>
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		<title>By: derek rose</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39820</link>
		<dc:creator>derek rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That story is a business feature. Maybe by &quot;business feature&quot; they were expecting a puff-piece? But features can be negative as well as positive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That story is a business feature. Maybe by &#8220;business feature&#8221; they were expecting a puff-piece? But features can be negative as well as positive.</p>
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		<title>By: The Wrightwing &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Barrett Firearms Ambushed by AP</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Wrightwing &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Barrett Firearms Ambushed by AP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Over at : This is in response to the Rose French story â€śSmall-time tinkering leads to big-time guns, sales by Tennessee Companyâ€ť released for distribution last weekend by the Associated Press. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Over at : This is in response to the Rose French story â€śSmall-time tinkering leads to big-time guns, sales by Tennessee Companyâ€ť released for distribution last weekend by the Associated Press. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rustmeister</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39815</link>
		<dc:creator>Rustmeister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 17:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ass. Press

I like that, very accurate.  =P</description>
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<p>I like that, very accurate.  =P</p>
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		<title>By: Rusticus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rusticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 16:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent piece, Uncle. Thank you.</description>
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		<title>By: tkdkerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>tkdkerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 16:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found the French AP story here:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/249813_biggun26.html

The editor inserted notes on corrections, but the corrections themselves leave a lot to be desired.  Still a hit job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found the French AP story here:</p>
<p><a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/249813_biggun26.html" rel="nofollow">http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/249813_biggun26.html</a></p>
<p>The editor inserted notes on corrections, but the corrections themselves leave a lot to be desired.  Still a hit job.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Thill</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39807</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Thill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 15:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see if I got this straight. MSM wants to write a story about guns. Company thinks it&#039;s a legit piece because reporter says so. Now the PR person is either naive or stupid, but being both is no way to go through life. Ditto for Mr. Barrett.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see if I got this straight. MSM wants to write a story about guns. Company thinks it&#8217;s a legit piece because reporter says so. Now the PR person is either naive or stupid, but being both is no way to go through life. Ditto for Mr. Barrett.</p>
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		<title>By: Grim's Hall</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39805</link>
		<dc:creator>Grim's Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 15:29:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Barrett Rifles&lt;/strong&gt;

The AP editors can get away with saying that they know nothing about firearms, and so couldn&#039;t spot the bad information (and bad faith) from their reporter. Military.com has no such excuse.  Fortunately, they do have the Military.com forums...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Barrett Rifles</strong></p>
<p>The AP editors can get away with saying that they know nothing about firearms, and so couldn&#8217;t spot the bad information (and bad faith) from their reporter. Military.com has no such excuse.  Fortunately, they do have the Military.com forums&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hypotheses Non Fingo</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39804</link>
		<dc:creator>Hypotheses Non Fingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 15:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The AP falsifies a firearms story (big surprise)&lt;/strong&gt;

What should we citizens do as a result of all of this? One thing would be getting the AP to issue a real correction. They issued a partial one (also at Say Uncle). Wanna bet it gets even half the publicity the original story did? Right. The second thin...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The AP falsifies a firearms story (big surprise)</strong></p>
<p>What should we citizens do as a result of all of this? One thing would be getting the AP to issue a real correction. They issued a partial one (also at Say Uncle). Wanna bet it gets even half the publicity the original story did? Right. The second thin&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Six Meat Buffet &#187; Times is Tough for the Old Media</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39803</link>
		<dc:creator>Six Meat Buffet &#187; Times is Tough for the Old Media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 14:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Say Uncle has an outstanding post detailing how Associated Press reporter Rose French represented herself as interested in writing a &#8220;business feature&#8221; about Barrett Rifles, but churned out a limp-wristed, error-laden attack instead. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Say Uncle has an outstanding post detailing how Associated Press reporter Rose French represented herself as interested in writing a &#8220;business feature&#8221; about Barrett Rifles, but churned out a limp-wristed, error-laden attack instead. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39798</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 13:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dexter, if you&#039;re that dense, good riddance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dexter, if you&#8217;re that dense, good riddance.</p>
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		<title>By: Pm of the POL</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39746</link>
		<dc:creator>Pm of the POL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 06:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AP lies to us once, shame on the AP. AP lies to us thousands of times, stop talking to and stop reading Associated Pravda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AP lies to us once, shame on the AP. AP lies to us thousands of times, stop talking to and stop reading Associated Pravda.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39745</link>
		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 05:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dexter:

&lt;i&gt;Ms. French reassured me mention of legislative issues would be brief and “it’s mostly going to be a business feature.”&lt;/i&gt;

Um...she definitely misrepresented this. 

Secondly, a reporter NEEDS to know what they are writing about when they write an article on something. At the very least do a good job of learning. I think Michael Marks takes the &quot;journalist&quot; to task on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dexter:</p>
<p><i>Ms. French reassured me mention of legislative issues would be brief and “it’s mostly going to be a business feature.”</i></p>
<p>Um&#8230;she definitely misrepresented this. </p>
<p>Secondly, a reporter NEEDS to know what they are writing about when they write an article on something. At the very least do a good job of learning. I think Michael Marks takes the &#8220;journalist&#8221; to task on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Dexter Westbrook</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39744</link>
		<dc:creator>Dexter Westbrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 05:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the lady says she&#039;s writing a business feature about your company.
She then writes, uh, a business feature about your company. There are
some mistakes in it, and an organization that doesn&#039;t like guns is quoted,
and the story doesn&#039;t use all the free advertising that you would like, so the 
reporter is a liar.

Great logic, pal.

I can cross this blog off my list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the lady says she&#8217;s writing a business feature about your company.<br />
She then writes, uh, a business feature about your company. There are<br />
some mistakes in it, and an organization that doesn&#8217;t like guns is quoted,<br />
and the story doesn&#8217;t use all the free advertising that you would like, so the<br />
reporter is a liar.</p>
<p>Great logic, pal.</p>
<p>I can cross this blog off my list.</p>
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		<title>By: countertop</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39743</link>
		<dc:creator>countertop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 05:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, I sent the following email to Jeff Jarvis (buzzmachine.com) asking for his thoughts.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Mr. Jarvis,

Not sure if you have seen this report yet, but it would be interesting
to hear your opinions of whether this AP reporter acted in an ethical
manner or not and what the appropriate response of an organization
like the AP ought to be.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, I sent the following email to Jeff Jarvis (buzzmachine.com) asking for his thoughts.</p>
<blockquote><p>Mr. Jarvis,</p>
<p>Not sure if you have seen this report yet, but it would be interesting<br />
to hear your opinions of whether this AP reporter acted in an ethical<br />
manner or not and what the appropriate response of an organization<br />
like the AP ought to be.
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		<title>By: countertop</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39742</link>
		<dc:creator>countertop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 05:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the AP ran a correction, ought they not to attach it to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051125/ap_on_re_us/barrett_firearms&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;faulty story itself&lt;/a&gt;???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the AP ran a correction, ought they not to attach it to the <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051125/ap_on_re_us/barrett_firearms" rel="nofollow">faulty story itself</a>???</p>
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		<title>By: Narcissistic views on News/Politics</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39741</link>
		<dc:creator>Narcissistic views on News/Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 04:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Well, so much for the AP news values and principle&lt;/strong&gt;

AP&#039;s Rose French lied to Barrett Rifles about the type of story she was going to do and AP had to print a retraction</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Well, so much for the AP news values and principle</strong></p>
<p>AP&#8217;s Rose French lied to Barrett Rifles about the type of story she was going to do and AP had to print a retraction</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39740</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 04:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ANY firearm improperly aimed will destroy game meat. Good grief. That&#039;s about the most irrelevant and lame comment I&#039;ve ever read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ANY firearm improperly aimed will destroy game meat. Good grief. That&#8217;s about the most irrelevant and lame comment I&#8217;ve ever read.</p>
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		<title>By: NashvilleFiles Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39739</link>
		<dc:creator>NashvilleFiles Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 04:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Further Proof - Media Wall of Shame&lt;/strong&gt;

SayUncle provides further proof that journalists need to know at least something about a subject BEFORE they write about it AND that bloggers will eat them alive if they misrepresent their intentions in doing a story. Who gets put on...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Further Proof &#8211; Media Wall of Shame</strong></p>
<p>SayUncle provides further proof that journalists need to know at least something about a subject BEFORE they write about it AND that bloggers will eat them alive if they misrepresent their intentions in doing a story. Who gets put on&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Driscoll.com</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39737</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Driscoll.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 03:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The Reactionary Media&lt;/strong&gt;

I&#039;ve linked several times to Radley Balko&#039;s post on &quot;The Conservative Left&quot;, because its a great meme, but the specific example that Radley used is worth repeating:You know, you sometimes get the feeling the day after the polio vaccine was...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The Reactionary Media</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve linked several times to Radley Balko&#8217;s post on &#8220;The Conservative Left&#8221;, because its a great meme, but the specific example that Radley used is worth repeating:You know, you sometimes get the feeling the day after the polio vaccine was&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ravenwood's Universe</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39736</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravenwood's Universe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 03:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The AP Lied!!!&lt;/strong&gt;

Say Uncle is reporting that the Ass. Press has resorted to unethical journalistic methods in doing a .50 Caliber hit piece. I&#039;m shocked, I say, shocked!...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The AP Lied!!!</strong></p>
<p>Say Uncle is reporting that the Ass. Press has resorted to unethical journalistic methods in doing a .50 Caliber hit piece. I&#8217;m shocked, I say, shocked!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Crusty</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39735</link>
		<dc:creator>Crusty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 03:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s see, a lady reporter from the MSM, who knows knows nothing at all about your products or your industry wants to do a business article on your company. 

So, tell me. Did you get lucky?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s see, a lady reporter from the MSM, who knows knows nothing at all about your products or your industry wants to do a business article on your company. </p>
<p>So, tell me. Did you get lucky?</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39733</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 03:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fixed.  Sorry about that.</description>
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		<title>By: Steph Houghton</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39732</link>
		<dc:creator>Steph Houghton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 03:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The corection is still factualy wrong. The .50 cal round wouldn&#039;t penetrate a tank at any distance unless the tank was a) built before world war two, or b) was an ultra light air dropable tank like the sheridan which was a POJ. As a former reporter, Ms. French&#039;s behavior is ofensive. I who am a radical libertarian took every pain not to let it show in my work. I hope she is let go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The corection is still factualy wrong. The .50 cal round wouldn&#8217;t penetrate a tank at any distance unless the tank was a) built before world war two, or b) was an ultra light air dropable tank like the sheridan which was a POJ. As a former reporter, Ms. French&#8217;s behavior is ofensive. I who am a radical libertarian took every pain not to let it show in my work. I hope she is let go.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Fotos</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/12/01/the_ap_lied_to_barrett/comment-page-1/#comment-39731</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Fotos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 03:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great work. 

FYI, your Michael Marks link is broken--would love to read his item.</description>
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<p>FYI, your Michael Marks link is broken&#8211;would love to read his item.</p>
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