Comments on: CNN 50 Caliber Rifle Update http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/02/23/cnn_50_caliber_rifle_update/ Remember, I do this to entertain me... not you. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:00:44 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: The Comedian http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/02/23/cnn_50_caliber_rifle_update/comment-page-1/#comment-14074 The Comedian Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:10:46 +0000 /?p=4908#comment-14074 D'oh. 'alleged' should be allegedly. D’oh.

‘alleged’ should be allegedly.

]]> By: The Comedian http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/02/23/cnn_50_caliber_rifle_update/comment-page-1/#comment-14073 The Comedian Wed, 23 Feb 2005 22:10:06 +0000 /?p=4908#comment-14073 Mens rea matters most of the time, but strict liability crimes can be committed simply by performing the proscribed act, regardless of intent. That said, I don't know what, if any, mental component is contained in the statute that was alleged violated. Mens rea matters most of the time, but strict liability crimes can be committed simply by performing the proscribed act, regardless of intent.

That said, I don’t know what, if any, mental component is contained in the statute that was alleged violated.

]]> By: Kristopher Barrett http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/02/23/cnn_50_caliber_rifle_update/comment-page-1/#comment-14067 Kristopher Barrett Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:51:37 +0000 /?p=4908#comment-14067 Yep. If us mere peons get caught in ANY violation, the ATF will seize the weapons, and prosecute. They also spend a great deal of time at gunshows creating "conspiracy" cases by asking folks at table stupid sounding questions about machineguns. The one thing they generally don't do is prosecute felons with firearms. Apparently they cannot be bothered to spend money on this. Yep.

If us mere peons get caught in ANY violation, the ATF will seize the weapons, and prosecute.

They also spend a great deal of time at gunshows creating “conspiracy” cases by asking folks at table stupid sounding questions about machineguns.

The one thing they generally don’t do is prosecute felons with firearms. Apparently they cannot be bothered to spend money on this.

]]> By: markm http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/02/23/cnn_50_caliber_rifle_update/comment-page-1/#comment-14066 markm Wed, 23 Feb 2005 18:23:42 +0000 /?p=4908#comment-14066 xlrq: From what I've heard, that's what they already do....unless you're one of the privileged classes. You want to change that, make the privileged classes feel the pain. OTOH, a letter from the BATF saying that they won't prosecute CNN for an innocent violation of complicated regulations might help the next ordinary citizen caught in their web for a mistake in filling out paperwork... xlrq: From what I’ve heard, that’s what they already do….unless you’re one of the privileged classes. You want to change that, make the privileged classes feel the pain.

OTOH, a letter from the BATF saying that they won’t prosecute CNN for an innocent violation of complicated regulations might help the next ordinary citizen caught in their web for a mistake in filling out paperwork…

]]> By: Xrlq http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/02/23/cnn_50_caliber_rifle_update/comment-page-1/#comment-14065 Xrlq Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:55:40 +0000 /?p=4908#comment-14065 Countertop is off base; of course intent matters. To the IRS, intent is the difference between sending you a bill for unpaid taxes and siccing the DOJ on you to offer you a few years in Club Fed. To the ATF, or to any criminal prosecutor, it's the difference between who technically can be prosecuted and who should be. If the ATF throws the book at Griffin et all, they'll do the same to everyone else who innocently stumbles across a technical violation of an arcane federal law. Is this really what the gunnies want? Countertop is off base; of course intent matters. To the IRS, intent is the difference between sending you a bill for unpaid taxes and siccing the DOJ on you to offer you a few years in Club Fed. To the ATF, or to any criminal prosecutor, it’s the difference between who technically can be prosecuted and who should be. If the ATF throws the book at Griffin et all, they’ll do the same to everyone else who innocently stumbles across a technical violation of an arcane federal law. Is this really what the gunnies want?

]]> By: Kristopher Barrett http://www.saysuncle.com/2005/02/23/cnn_50_caliber_rifle_update/comment-page-1/#comment-14058 Kristopher Barrett Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:02:58 +0000 /?p=4908#comment-14058 Were any state laws broken? Hmmmm .... Many states have laws on the books duplicating the GCA '68 regs, or requiring people to conform to federal regs. And the ATFE has, in the past, had local prosecutors pursue weapons charges. Would it be possible to get Georgia or Texas state authorities interested in this? Were any state laws broken?
Hmmmm ….

Many states have laws on the books duplicating the GCA ‘68 regs, or requiring people to conform to federal regs.

And the ATFE has, in the past, had local prosecutors pursue weapons charges.

Would it be possible to get Georgia or Texas state authorities interested in this?

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