Comments on: Foily Hat Time

By: veery

veery — Sun, 19 Dec 2004 16:37:54 +0000

There are plenty of pieces of the 9/11 story that don’t make much sense — paper debris far from the PA crash site, poor accounting of scrambled jets, Atta’s passport, the almost instantaneous identification of the perps, the small hole in the Pentagon — but how the towers fell? That’s one part of the story that actually made sense. They buckled. Why would someone fixate on that of all things?

By: mike hollihan

mike hollihan — Sat, 18 Dec 2004 18:12:25 +0000

I hesitate mightily to wade into these waters, but here we go:

It’s not widely remembered anymore, but the week of OKC the city was hosting the largest ever meeting of radical Muslims (ie, no outright terrorists, but many of the groups that support and motivate them) outside the Middle East — several thousand Muslims. It’s why Islamic terrorism was the first suggestion for who was responsible. Like I said, not widely remembered any more.

Terry McNichol has been placed at a Phillippine meeting with Yussuf Ramzi, who was responsible for the first WTC attack.

How many died at OKC? 168? Wrong — it was 169. There was an olive skinned leg with an army-style boot recovered that has never been identified. Nor has there been anyone come forward to claim it, nor was there anyone injured in the area treated at area hospitals. Some speculate this was John Doe #2, who stayed with the truck and died in the blast.

Nichols and McVeigh made numerous phone calls to a white supremacist compound (Elohim City) in the days before OKC, all to one man: Andreas Strassmeir. He is the son of a former German defense minister and had lots of ties to the European neo-Nazi movement. Strassmeir was identified very early, but was allowed to leave the country without further questioning. He lives in Europe now, unmolested.

There are numerous odd questions, which you can explore here.

By: tgirsch

tgirsch — Fri, 17 Dec 2004 16:32:27 +0000

As to the towers falling, Nova did a pretty good special on this back in 2002. You can see some of it here. I'm no engineer, but the explanations they gave didn't seem farfetched or unreasonable. They also used an MIT engineer as their primary source, rather than the government report.

By: Phelps

Phelps — Fri, 17 Dec 2004 15:56:24 +0000

It isn’t hard to come up with the neo-Nazi link:

They both hate Jews more than they hate each other
They both think that they can use the other for the first part of the fight and then turn on them later

If you want the empirical evidence that suggests that it isn’t a stretch, look at the original Nazi-Arab alliance in WW2.

By: cube

cube — Fri, 17 Dec 2004 15:49:25 +0000

there is the possible phillipines connectin between the guy who help mcviegh and one terrorist