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		<title>By: SayUncle &#187; Biased against guns</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/08/03/wate_gun_show_loophole_update/comment-page-1/#comment-148557</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle &#187; Biased against guns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 15:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#8217;s not all bad. I still commend Tim Miller for correcting an error. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/08/03/wate_gun_show_loophole_update/comment-page-1/#comment-7984</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2004 22:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I said I got &quot;some&quot; pull... but not that much! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I said I got &#8220;some&#8221; pull&#8230; but not that much! <img src='http://www.saysuncle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: COUNTERTOP</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/08/03/wate_gun_show_loophole_update/comment-page-1/#comment-7911</link>
		<dc:creator>COUNTERTOP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2004 02:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;ve got some pull, maybe you can arrange for them to rovide ON AIR time for SaysUncle or maybe a reprsentative from the GOA to respond to the innacuracies in the report.  I posted that suggstion on their message board, but the moderator did not respond to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;ve got some pull, maybe you can arrange for them to rovide ON AIR time for SaysUncle or maybe a reprsentative from the GOA to respond to the innacuracies in the report.  I posted that suggstion on their message board, but the moderator did not respond to it.</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/08/03/wate_gun_show_loophole_update/comment-page-1/#comment-7910</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2004 02:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if you have any problems with them, let me know :-)  I&#039;ve still got some pull there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if you have any problems with them, let me know <img src='http://www.saysuncle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   I&#8217;ve still got some pull there!</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/08/03/wate_gun_show_loophole_update/comment-page-1/#comment-7909</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2004 01:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CJ, i don&#039;t question the character.  I think it&#039;s, as you say, uninformed.  Yet, when the decid to inform themselves, they get all their talking points from anti-gun folks.  Additionally, I find it odd that they are often so oppositional about being told when they&#039;re wrong.  I was pleasantly surprised that this was not the case with WATE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CJ, i don&#8217;t question the character.  I think it&#8217;s, as you say, uninformed.  Yet, when the decid to inform themselves, they get all their talking points from anti-gun folks.  Additionally, I find it odd that they are often so oppositional about being told when they&#8217;re wrong.  I was pleasantly surprised that this was not the case with WATE.</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/08/03/wate_gun_show_loophole_update/comment-page-1/#comment-7902</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2004 22:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can vouch for the character of Tim Miller.  From the year and a half I worked with him, I can assure you he&#039;s a stand up guy.  If he made a mistake, it was unintentional.

Unfortunately, the media as a whole is uninformed when it comes to reporting gun stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can vouch for the character of Tim Miller.  From the year and a half I worked with him, I can assure you he&#8217;s a stand up guy.  If he made a mistake, it was unintentional.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the media as a whole is uninformed when it comes to reporting gun stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Drake</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/08/03/wate_gun_show_loophole_update/comment-page-1/#comment-7900</link>
		<dc:creator>Drake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2004 20:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have commented on their boards for some time and have found that WATE&#039;s admin is quite willing to engage in debate and they are quite reasonable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have commented on their boards for some time and have found that WATE&#8217;s admin is quite willing to engage in debate and they are quite reasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: countertop</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/08/03/wate_gun_show_loophole_update/comment-page-1/#comment-7897</link>
		<dc:creator>countertop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2004 19:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is a fence/black market sale the same as a straw sale?

Interesting statistics.  I&#039;m impressed that WATE was willing to engage you to such depth on their message board.  I&#039;ve found most reporters take the high road and avoid confrontation pretty readily.  You did a good job of making this one think, and hopefully his next report will be a bit less biased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is a fence/black market sale the same as a straw sale?</p>
<p>Interesting statistics.  I&#8217;m impressed that WATE was willing to engage you to such depth on their message board.  I&#8217;ve found most reporters take the high road and avoid confrontation pretty readily.  You did a good job of making this one think, and hopefully his next report will be a bit less biased.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/08/03/wate_gun_show_loophole_update/comment-page-1/#comment-7896</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2004 17:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah, almost forgot: Per the report, illegal source means:

Theft 7.6%

drug dealer/off street 15.7%

fence/black market 7.6%

I guess they&#039;re assuming the drug dealer who sold it was forbidden from possessing it, hence it is illegal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, almost forgot: Per the report, illegal source means:</p>
<p>Theft 7.6%</p>
<p>drug dealer/off street 15.7%</p>
<p>fence/black market 7.6%</p>
<p>I guess they&#8217;re assuming the drug dealer who sold it was forbidden from possessing it, hence it is illegal.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/08/03/wate_gun_show_loophole_update/comment-page-1/#comment-7895</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2004 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point.  However, I&#039;m quoting &lt;a href=&quot;http://gunfacts.info/&quot;&gt;gun facts&lt;/a&gt;.  So, i searched for the US DOJ stats and found &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/fuo.pdf&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.

Turns out gun facts misquoted.  The stat is actually:

&lt;i&gt;39.2% Street/Illegal source&lt;/i&gt;

Which implies either/or.  Good catch and thanks for keeping me honest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point.  However, I&#8217;m quoting <a href="http://gunfacts.info/">gun facts</a>.  So, i searched for the US DOJ stats and found <a href="http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/fuo.pdf">this</a>.</p>
<p>Turns out gun facts misquoted.  The stat is actually:</p>
<p><i>39.2% Street/Illegal source</i></p>
<p>Which implies either/or.  Good catch and thanks for keeping me honest.</p>
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		<title>By: skb</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/08/03/wate_gun_show_loophole_update/comment-page-1/#comment-7894</link>
		<dc:creator>skb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2004 17:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Only 0.7% of convicts bought their firearms at gun shows. 39.2% obtained them from illegal street dealers.” 

I&#039;m confused. I thought your argument was that it is legal for anybody to sell guns to anybody. So what is an &quot;illegal street dealer&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Only 0.7% of convicts bought their firearms at gun shows. 39.2% obtained them from illegal street dealers.” </p>
<p>I&#8217;m confused. I thought your argument was that it is legal for anybody to sell guns to anybody. So what is an &#8220;illegal street dealer&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle :  WATE Follow Up</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/08/03/wate_gun_show_loophole_update/comment-page-1/#comment-8920</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle :  WATE Follow Up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] attack on her assertion with an attack on her.  She shouldn&#8217;t feel too bad as I had &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2004/08/03/wate_gun_show_loophole_update/&quot;&gt;one report on WATE changed already&lt;/a&gt; though no correction was issued an [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] attack on her assertion with an attack on her.  She shouldn&#8217;t feel too bad as I had <a href="http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2004/08/03/wate_gun_show_loophole_update/">one report on WATE changed already</a> though no correction was issued an [...]</p>
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