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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/27/john_kerry_sportsmen/comment-page-1/#comment-9706</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2004 17:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s PETA&#039;s official stance on John Kerry&#039;s recent hunting trip in Ohio.  It&#039;s a TOTAL copout in my opinion:

Thank you for contacting PETA about political candidates who engage in
blood sports. Please understand that PETA certainly opposes any activity
which causes intentional harm to animals, including hunting and fishing.

As a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, educational organization, PETA is prohibited
from participating in any political campaigns or endorsing a particular
candidate or party.  However, we encourage you to contact the candidate
or party that you are interested in directly; ask the party
representatives for their position on animal rights, and tell the
candidate that animal rights issues will influence your vote. 

To learn a candidate&#039;s position on a comprehensive list of issues,
including animal protection, please contact Project Vote Smart at
1-888-VOTE-SMART or http://www.vote-smart.org (be sure to include the
hyphen).
 
PETA&#039;s &quot;Guide to Letter-Writing&quot; (http://www.peta.org/alert/guide.html)
offers helpful tips for writing to elected officials.

To learn more about ways to combat cruelty to animals as &quot;sport,&quot; please
see the following sites:

http://www.FishingHurts.com 
http://www.AnimalActivist.com/wildlife.asp 
http://www.Fund.org 

Thanks again for writing and for everything you do for animals!

Sincerely,

The PETA Staff
http://www.peta.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s PETA&#8217;s official stance on John Kerry&#8217;s recent hunting trip in Ohio.  It&#8217;s a TOTAL copout in my opinion:</p>
<p>Thank you for contacting PETA about political candidates who engage in<br />
blood sports. Please understand that PETA certainly opposes any activity<br />
which causes intentional harm to animals, including hunting and fishing.</p>
<p>As a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, educational organization, PETA is prohibited<br />
from participating in any political campaigns or endorsing a particular<br />
candidate or party.  However, we encourage you to contact the candidate<br />
or party that you are interested in directly; ask the party<br />
representatives for their position on animal rights, and tell the<br />
candidate that animal rights issues will influence your vote. </p>
<p>To learn a candidate&#8217;s position on a comprehensive list of issues,<br />
including animal protection, please contact Project Vote Smart at<br />
1-888-VOTE-SMART or <a href="http://www.vote-smart.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.vote-smart.org</a> (be sure to include the<br />
hyphen).</p>
<p>PETA&#8217;s &#8220;Guide to Letter-Writing&#8221; (<a href="http://www.peta.org/alert/guide.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.peta.org/alert/guide.html</a>)<br />
offers helpful tips for writing to elected officials.</p>
<p>To learn more about ways to combat cruelty to animals as &#8220;sport,&#8221; please<br />
see the following sites:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.FishingHurts.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.FishingHurts.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.AnimalActivist.com/wildlife.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.AnimalActivist.com/wildlife.asp</a><br />
<a href="http://www.Fund.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.Fund.org</a> </p>
<p>Thanks again for writing and for everything you do for animals!</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>The PETA Staff<br />
<a href="http://www.peta.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.peta.org</a></p>
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		<title>By: Oak Duke</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/27/john_kerry_sportsmen/comment-page-1/#comment-9385</link>
		<dc:creator>Oak Duke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a guess, but it sounds like Kerry was talking about goose hunting in the sentence he was referencing &quot;decoys and crawling on his belly.&quot; I have killed a lot of deer and killed a lot of geese. My first dozen or so deer and hundred or so geese were all killed with a double barrel, &quot;side-by-side.&quot; I have decoyed deer  and crawled on my belly on occassion with long bow, recurve, compound, side-by-side, pump, and semi-auto shotguns; and rifles. It is typical of the right-wing neo-con press to omit parts of Kerry&#039;s speech to make him appear foolish. This tactic says more about them, than it does the man. They are idealogues. Since when have they believed in the truth? Their ends justify their means. What do you expect from a hog but a grunt?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a guess, but it sounds like Kerry was talking about goose hunting in the sentence he was referencing &#8220;decoys and crawling on his belly.&#8221; I have killed a lot of deer and killed a lot of geese. My first dozen or so deer and hundred or so geese were all killed with a double barrel, &#8220;side-by-side.&#8221; I have decoyed deer  and crawled on my belly on occassion with long bow, recurve, compound, side-by-side, pump, and semi-auto shotguns; and rifles. It is typical of the right-wing neo-con press to omit parts of Kerry&#8217;s speech to make him appear foolish. This tactic says more about them, than it does the man. They are idealogues. Since when have they believed in the truth? Their ends justify their means. What do you expect from a hog but a grunt?</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/27/john_kerry_sportsmen/comment-page-1/#comment-9198</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2004 00:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kerry is a not a hunter, he&#039;s not a sportsman and he hates guns and those of us that own guns.  He pretends to be a hunter on TV and if he had his way he will have all our guns and ban hunting all together. John Kerry is just another liberal wennie that puts his finger in the air to see witch way the wind is blowing before he opens his mouth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kerry is a not a hunter, he&#8217;s not a sportsman and he hates guns and those of us that own guns.  He pretends to be a hunter on TV and if he had his way he will have all our guns and ban hunting all together. John Kerry is just another liberal wennie that puts his finger in the air to see witch way the wind is blowing before he opens his mouth.</p>
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		<title>By: redfro</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/27/john_kerry_sportsmen/comment-page-1/#comment-8798</link>
		<dc:creator>redfro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2004 02:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though I choose a 30-30 Win., and prefer a standing broadside shot @ 75 yd. , after a couple days in our neck of the woods, (N/W PA.) it is NOT unusual to find me, my son, or any one of my hunting buddies bangin through Redbrush or Briar thickets trying to kick Whitetails out of their beds. And YES, on occasion , even on our bellies.  We&#039;ll be casting our our bullets from battery leadsoon enough if they keep shippin our jobs overseas. Bush lied.. Bin Laden was in Afghanistan!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I choose a 30-30 Win., and prefer a standing broadside shot @ 75 yd. , after a couple days in our neck of the woods, (N/W PA.) it is NOT unusual to find me, my son, or any one of my hunting buddies bangin through Redbrush or Briar thickets trying to kick Whitetails out of their beds. And YES, on occasion , even on our bellies.  We&#8217;ll be casting our our bullets from battery leadsoon enough if they keep shippin our jobs overseas. Bush lied.. Bin Laden was in Afghanistan!!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/27/john_kerry_sportsmen/comment-page-1/#comment-8271</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2004 17:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...people have been using double barrels with either slugs or buckshot... &quot;

Um...at least in Minnesota, &#039;buckshot&#039; is illegal for hunting deer.  You must use only single projectile ammunition.
  
http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/rlp/regulations/hunting/biggame.pdf

I&#039;m not sure where the name came from, but buckshot would not be very effective on a deer and not very humane.

Regardles of how John Kerry likes to kill animals (or at least act manly talking about it), the 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting.  It&#039;s there to allow US citizens to support the Constitution and continue to protect themselves from an oppressive government.  To remain &quot;citizens&quot; rather than &quot;subjects&quot;.  Without the 2nd Amendment to back it up, the rest of the Bill of Rights is all just words on paper.

John Kerry may like shooting and hunting, but he shows very unsafe gun handling.  He would likely get his a** kicked in our deer camp and never be invited back if he waved the gun around with his finger on the trigger like he does at those staged shotgun events.  

Much more importantly, regardless of his campaign rhetoric, his votes regarding gun control show that he does NOT support the 2nd Amendment.

By the way, I&#039;ll be deer hunting with a rifle based on the AK-47 this fall.  Much more effective (and legal for hunting when used with a 5-round magazine) than a double-barrel shotgun.  For those of you who will freak out about the &quot;evil AK-47&quot;, it&#039;s not really different than any other rifle.  The AK-47 actually shoots a less powerful round than a typical hunting rifle, so I will have to stalk and get close to the deer - although it&#039;s unlikely I&#039;ll get close to deer by crawling on my belly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;people have been using double barrels with either slugs or buckshot&#8230; &#8221;</p>
<p>Um&#8230;at least in Minnesota, &#8216;buckshot&#8217; is illegal for hunting deer.  You must use only single projectile ammunition.</p>
<p><a href="http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/rlp/regulations/hunting/biggame.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://files.dnr.state.mn.us/rlp/regulations/hunting/biggame.pdf</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure where the name came from, but buckshot would not be very effective on a deer and not very humane.</p>
<p>Regardles of how John Kerry likes to kill animals (or at least act manly talking about it), the 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting.  It&#8217;s there to allow US citizens to support the Constitution and continue to protect themselves from an oppressive government.  To remain &#8220;citizens&#8221; rather than &#8220;subjects&#8221;.  Without the 2nd Amendment to back it up, the rest of the Bill of Rights is all just words on paper.</p>
<p>John Kerry may like shooting and hunting, but he shows very unsafe gun handling.  He would likely get his a** kicked in our deer camp and never be invited back if he waved the gun around with his finger on the trigger like he does at those staged shotgun events.  </p>
<p>Much more importantly, regardless of his campaign rhetoric, his votes regarding gun control show that he does NOT support the 2nd Amendment.</p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;ll be deer hunting with a rifle based on the AK-47 this fall.  Much more effective (and legal for hunting when used with a 5-round magazine) than a double-barrel shotgun.  For those of you who will freak out about the &#8220;evil AK-47&#8243;, it&#8217;s not really different than any other rifle.  The AK-47 actually shoots a less powerful round than a typical hunting rifle, so I will have to stalk and get close to the deer &#8211; although it&#8217;s unlikely I&#8217;ll get close to deer by crawling on my belly.</p>
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		<title>By: Les Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/27/john_kerry_sportsmen/comment-page-1/#comment-7816</link>
		<dc:creator>Les Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2004 23:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like some people do shoot slugs from double-barreled guns. This guy says he shot his first two deer that way. Range was less than 25 yards.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=94010&quot;&gt;http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=94010&lt;/a&gt;

So I guess it&#039;s possible that Senator Botox is telling the truth. (I know. As unlikely as that seems.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like some people do shoot slugs from double-barreled guns. This guy says he shot his first two deer that way. Range was less than 25 yards.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&#038;threadid=94010">http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=&#038;threadid=94010</a></p>
<p>So I guess it&#8217;s possible that Senator Botox is telling the truth. (I know. As unlikely as that seems.)</p>
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		<title>By: Thibodeaux</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/27/john_kerry_sportsmen/comment-page-1/#comment-7784</link>
		<dc:creator>Thibodeaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I figure Nader would be their man.</description>
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		<title>By: tgirsch</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/27/john_kerry_sportsmen/comment-page-1/#comment-7782</link>
		<dc:creator>tgirsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Thib:&lt;/b&gt;

I believe (but am not sure) PeTA is a non-profit, which prohibits them from endorsing or opposing anyone.

If they did support a candidate, it would likely be Nader, though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Thib:</b></p>
<p>I believe (but am not sure) PeTA is a non-profit, which prohibits them from endorsing or opposing anyone.</p>
<p>If they did support a candidate, it would likely be Nader, though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Thibodeaux</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/27/john_kerry_sportsmen/comment-page-1/#comment-7778</link>
		<dc:creator>Thibodeaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2004 16:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right....but which candidate (if any) does PETA support?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right&#8230;.but which candidate (if any) does PETA support?</p>
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		<title>By: Kynn Bartlett</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/27/john_kerry_sportsmen/comment-page-1/#comment-7768</link>
		<dc:creator>Kynn Bartlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2004 06:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thibodeaux:

PETA doesn&#039;t like hunting, so I am sure they&#039;re appalled by this.

--Kynn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thibodeaux:</p>
<p>PETA doesn&#8217;t like hunting, so I am sure they&#8217;re appalled by this.</p>
<p>&#8211;Kynn</p>
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		<title>By: Les Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/27/john_kerry_sportsmen/comment-page-1/#comment-7765</link>
		<dc:creator>Les Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2004 01:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pub: not even a rifled barrel - mine isn&#039;t rifled. Rifled slugs will take care of that (though a rifled barrel is better). I have to disagree about the sights, though. Good luck hitting anything at 50 yards with a bead front sight and a slug.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pub: not even a rifled barrel &#8211; mine isn&#8217;t rifled. Rifled slugs will take care of that (though a rifled barrel is better). I have to disagree about the sights, though. Good luck hitting anything at 50 yards with a bead front sight and a slug.</p>
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		<title>By: Thibodeaux</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/27/john_kerry_sportsmen/comment-page-1/#comment-7764</link>
		<dc:creator>Thibodeaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2004 00:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what PETA has to say about all this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what PETA has to say about all this?</p>
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		<title>By: Publicola</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/27/john_kerry_sportsmen/comment-page-1/#comment-7759</link>
		<dc:creator>Publicola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 21:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>people have been using double barrels with either slugs or buckshot (ever wonder why they call it buckshot?) for over 100 years.

As for crawling through the woods - it&#039;s plausible &amp; on occassion necessary.

You don&#039;t need a rifled barrel with iron sights to shoot slugs or buckshot effectively at deer. You just need to know your range limitations &amp; get cloe - usually within 30 to 50 yards for slugs &amp; under 30 for buckshot.

&amp; you can shoot slugs through a choked barrel. I wouldn&#039;t do it with a full choke or perhaps not even an improved modified, but skeet through modified can be done with the right types of slugs. &amp; while rifling helps accuracy out a bit, people have been running slugs through smoothbores for quite some time. It limits the practical range a bit but it doesn&#039;t harm the barrel.

So I don&#039;t necessarily find his statement unreasonable on its face. What I do find unreasonable is him crawling through the woods on his belly to get close enough to a deer (after stalking it) to put a slug or a load of buckshot into its vitals.

&amp; also I find it unreasonable that he tries to diminish his love for gun control by making an appeal to the hunters &amp; Fuddites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>people have been using double barrels with either slugs or buckshot (ever wonder why they call it buckshot?) for over 100 years.</p>
<p>As for crawling through the woods &#8211; it&#8217;s plausible &#038; on occassion necessary.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need a rifled barrel with iron sights to shoot slugs or buckshot effectively at deer. You just need to know your range limitations &#038; get cloe &#8211; usually within 30 to 50 yards for slugs &#038; under 30 for buckshot.</p>
<p>&#038; you can shoot slugs through a choked barrel. I wouldn&#8217;t do it with a full choke or perhaps not even an improved modified, but skeet through modified can be done with the right types of slugs. &#038; while rifling helps accuracy out a bit, people have been running slugs through smoothbores for quite some time. It limits the practical range a bit but it doesn&#8217;t harm the barrel.</p>
<p>So I don&#8217;t necessarily find his statement unreasonable on its face. What I do find unreasonable is him crawling through the woods on his belly to get close enough to a deer (after stalking it) to put a slug or a load of buckshot into its vitals.</p>
<p>&#038; also I find it unreasonable that he tries to diminish his love for gun control by making an appeal to the hunters &#038; Fuddites.</p>
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		<title>By: Les Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/27/john_kerry_sportsmen/comment-page-1/#comment-7757</link>
		<dc:creator>Les Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a deer barrel for my shotgun. What makes it a deer gun? First of all it&#039;s  cylinder bore (no choke), meaning the barrel doesn&#039;t taper. Most shotgun barrels are choked to increase the pattern density. That&#039;s fine when you&#039;re firing shot. For hunting deer you use solid slugs (which are like very large bullets - 12 gauge works out to 0.72 caliber or so). You can&#039;t shoot slugs through a choked barrel.

The other thing that makes it a deer barrel is that it has rifle sights. Most shotguns just have a simple bead on the front. The spread of the shot pattern makes absolute accuracy unimportant, and the simple sight lines up fast when shooting birds in flight.

You typically only see rifle sights for guns that are set up for deer or turkey. (Unlike other birds, turkeys aren&#039;t shot on the wing, and you have to put a lot of lead on target to kill them because of their size.)

Could Kerry have a double-barreled deer rifle with cylinder bore and rifle sights? I won&#039;t say with 100% certainty that it&#039;s impossible, but I suspect Kerry&#039;s full of it. As Otto von Bismarck said, &quot;People never lie so much as after a hunt, during a war, or before an election.&quot; Kerry&#039;s two for three.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a deer barrel for my shotgun. What makes it a deer gun? First of all it&#8217;s  cylinder bore (no choke), meaning the barrel doesn&#8217;t taper. Most shotgun barrels are choked to increase the pattern density. That&#8217;s fine when you&#8217;re firing shot. For hunting deer you use solid slugs (which are like very large bullets &#8211; 12 gauge works out to 0.72 caliber or so). You can&#8217;t shoot slugs through a choked barrel.</p>
<p>The other thing that makes it a deer barrel is that it has rifle sights. Most shotguns just have a simple bead on the front. The spread of the shot pattern makes absolute accuracy unimportant, and the simple sight lines up fast when shooting birds in flight.</p>
<p>You typically only see rifle sights for guns that are set up for deer or turkey. (Unlike other birds, turkeys aren&#8217;t shot on the wing, and you have to put a lot of lead on target to kill them because of their size.)</p>
<p>Could Kerry have a double-barreled deer rifle with cylinder bore and rifle sights? I won&#8217;t say with 100% certainty that it&#8217;s impossible, but I suspect Kerry&#8217;s full of it. As Otto von Bismarck said, &#8220;People never lie so much as after a hunt, during a war, or before an election.&#8221; Kerry&#8217;s two for three.</p>
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		<title>By: Kynn Bartlett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kynn Bartlett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know, I know!

It&#039;s that they &lt;b&gt;left out a lot of the quote&lt;/b&gt;.

Here&#039;s the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jsonline.com/news/nat/jul04/241516.asp&quot;&gt;full thing&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
After his successful round of trapshooting Saturday (Kerry hit 17 of 25 targets), Kerry told a reporter he would rather have been hunting.

He was asked in the interview Sunday what kind of hunting he preferred.

&quot;&lt;b&gt;Probably&lt;/b&gt; I&#039;d have to say deer. &lt;b&gt;It&#039;s tough, depending on where you are&lt;/b&gt;,&quot; said Kerry.

&quot;I go out with my trusty 12-gauge double-barrel, crawl around on my stomach. &lt;b&gt;I track and move and decoy and play games and try to outsmart them. You know, you kind of play the wind.&lt;/b&gt; That&#039;s hunting,&quot; said Kerry, whose manner was relaxed as he spoke on the final day of an excursion along the scenic upper Mississippi that he seemed to take some relish in.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To help out, I&#039;ve highlighted the quotes that have been dropped.

There&#039;s nothing in the original version to indicate that Kerry&#039;s quotes were said in direct succession (nothing to say they weren&#039;t either), but he clearly didn&#039;t make the statements as portrayed in the edited version, which appears to flow cleanly between &quot;hunting deer&quot; and &quot;crawling on the ground.&quot;

In particular, the phrase &lt;b&gt;It&#039;s tough, depending on where you are&lt;/b&gt; can be seen as Kerry saying, &quot;It&#039;s difficult to find a place where you can hunt deer, because they&#039;re not always around&quot; -- so likely he means that he hunts other things.

His reference to &quot;that&#039;s hunting&quot; has to be read in light of the fact that he&#039;d just been trapshooting.  He wasn&#039;t saying &quot;hunting deer with a shotgun on my belly, that&#039;s hunting&quot; -- he was saying &quot;going out and stalking prey instead of blasting clay pigeons, THAT&#039;S hunting.&quot;

--Kynn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, I know!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s that they <b>left out a lot of the quote</b>.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the <a href="http://www.jsonline.com/news/nat/jul04/241516.asp">full thing</a>:</p>
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After his successful round of trapshooting Saturday (Kerry hit 17 of 25 targets), Kerry told a reporter he would rather have been hunting.</p>
<p>He was asked in the interview Sunday what kind of hunting he preferred.</p>
<p>&#8220;<b>Probably</b> I&#8217;d have to say deer. <b>It&#8217;s tough, depending on where you are</b>,&#8221; said Kerry.</p>
<p>&#8220;I go out with my trusty 12-gauge double-barrel, crawl around on my stomach. <b>I track and move and decoy and play games and try to outsmart them. You know, you kind of play the wind.</b> That&#8217;s hunting,&#8221; said Kerry, whose manner was relaxed as he spoke on the final day of an excursion along the scenic upper Mississippi that he seemed to take some relish in.
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<p>To help out, I&#8217;ve highlighted the quotes that have been dropped.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing in the original version to indicate that Kerry&#8217;s quotes were said in direct succession (nothing to say they weren&#8217;t either), but he clearly didn&#8217;t make the statements as portrayed in the edited version, which appears to flow cleanly between &#8220;hunting deer&#8221; and &#8220;crawling on the ground.&#8221;</p>
<p>In particular, the phrase <b>It&#8217;s tough, depending on where you are</b> can be seen as Kerry saying, &#8220;It&#8217;s difficult to find a place where you can hunt deer, because they&#8217;re not always around&#8221; &#8212; so likely he means that he hunts other things.</p>
<p>His reference to &#8220;that&#8217;s hunting&#8221; has to be read in light of the fact that he&#8217;d just been trapshooting.  He wasn&#8217;t saying &#8220;hunting deer with a shotgun on my belly, that&#8217;s hunting&#8221; &#8212; he was saying &#8220;going out and stalking prey instead of blasting clay pigeons, THAT&#8217;S hunting.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;Kynn</p>
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		<title>By: Thibodeaux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thibodeaux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the crawling part is when he&#039;s hunting his car keys.</description>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
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		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, i think that&#039;s why you get rifled barrels.  But then i&#039;m not a shotgun guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, i think that&#8217;s why you get rifled barrels.  But then i&#8217;m not a shotgun guy.</p>
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		<title>By: skb</title>
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		<dc:creator>skb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the slugs are rifled. I seem to recall them being pretty hard on the barrel.</description>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
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		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The shotgun, i could excuse if it was all he said as i know many slug hunters.  The crawling around part leads me to believe he also doesn&#039;t get the shotgun part.  Plus, do they make a rifled double-barrel for slugs?  I&#039;ve not seen one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The shotgun, i could excuse if it was all he said as i know many slug hunters.  The crawling around part leads me to believe he also doesn&#8217;t get the shotgun part.  Plus, do they make a rifled double-barrel for slugs?  I&#8217;ve not seen one.</p>
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		<title>By: GORDON</title>
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		<dc:creator>GORDON</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 19:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never heard of any deer hunters doing the low crawl.</description>
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		<title>By: skb</title>
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		<dc:creator>skb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dad hunted everything with a 12 ga. They used slugs for deer. Don&#039;t know about the crawling around on his stomach part, though.</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Wage</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Wage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2004 18:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe he meant deer &lt;i&gt;squirrels&lt;/i&gt; -- they&#039;re very rare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe he meant deer <i>squirrels</i> &#8212; they&#8217;re very rare.</p>
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