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		<title>By: Heartless Libertarian</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/13/assault_weapons_ban_and_price_speculation/comment-page-1/#comment-7417</link>
		<dc:creator>Heartless Libertarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kerry came off &lt;s&gt;taxpayer funded vacation from his Senate job&lt;/s&gt; the campaign trail to vote in favor of adding DiFi&#039;s AWB amendment to the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms act.  It was the first thing he&#039;d bothered to vote on all year.

That a good enough snapshot of his position for you?

If it&#039;s not, he get&#039;s a 100% rating from the Brady Bunch, too.

I&#039;ve already got a purchase list in case he wins.  And permission from the wife to use some of the savings account to buy it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kerry came off <s>taxpayer funded vacation from his Senate job</s> the campaign trail to vote in favor of adding DiFi&#8217;s AWB amendment to the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms act.  It was the first thing he&#8217;d bothered to vote on all year.</p>
<p>That a good enough snapshot of his position for you?</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s not, he get&#8217;s a 100% rating from the Brady Bunch, too.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve already got a purchase list in case he wins.  And permission from the wife to use some of the savings account to buy it.</p>
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		<title>By: cube</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/13/assault_weapons_ban_and_price_speculation/comment-page-1/#comment-7411</link>
		<dc:creator>cube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so the launchers are duel use, and the other use would be to save lives.

that makes sense.

has anyone heard about what kerry thinks about the weapons ban, if he wins he might try to reinstate that, which will give a small window to buy cool stuff like gernade launchers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so the launchers are duel use, and the other use would be to save lives.</p>
<p>that makes sense.</p>
<p>has anyone heard about what kerry thinks about the weapons ban, if he wins he might try to reinstate that, which will give a small window to buy cool stuff like gernade launchers</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Douglas</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/13/assault_weapons_ban_and_price_speculation/comment-page-1/#comment-7409</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I feel like such a gun nerd now.  Here is the Destructive Device criteria as it pertains to Grenade launchers.  See the end of item 6:  

(1) “destructive devices” means:
(a) any explosive, incendiary or poison gas:
1) bomb;
2) grenade;
3) rocket having a propellant charge of more than four ounces;
4) missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than one-quarter
ounce;
5) mine; or
6) similar device; and
(b) any type of weapon by whatever name known which will, or which may be
readily converted to, expel a projectile by the action of an explosive or
other propellant, the barrel or barrels of which have a bore of more than
one-half inch in diameter, except a shotgun or shotgun shell which is generally
recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes; and any combination
of parts either designed or intended for use in converting any device
into a destructive device as defined in Paragraphs (1) and (2) and from
which a destructive device may be readily assembled.
The term “destructive device” shall not include any device which is neither
designed nor redesigned for use as a weapon or any device, although originally
designed for use as a weapon, which is redesigned for use as a signaling,
pyrotechnic, line throwing, safety or similar device.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I feel like such a gun nerd now.  Here is the Destructive Device criteria as it pertains to Grenade launchers.  See the end of item 6:  </p>
<p>(1) “destructive devices” means:<br />
(a) any explosive, incendiary or poison gas:<br />
1) bomb;<br />
2) grenade;<br />
3) rocket having a propellant charge of more than four ounces;<br />
4) missile having an explosive or incendiary charge of more than one-quarter<br />
ounce;<br />
5) mine; or<br />
6) similar device; and<br />
(b) any type of weapon by whatever name known which will, or which may be<br />
readily converted to, expel a projectile by the action of an explosive or<br />
other propellant, the barrel or barrels of which have a bore of more than<br />
one-half inch in diameter, except a shotgun or shotgun shell which is generally<br />
recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes; and any combination<br />
of parts either designed or intended for use in converting any device<br />
into a destructive device as defined in Paragraphs (1) and (2) and from<br />
which a destructive device may be readily assembled.<br />
The term “destructive device” shall not include any device which is neither<br />
designed nor redesigned for use as a weapon or any device, although originally<br />
designed for use as a weapon, which is redesigned for use as a signaling,<br />
pyrotechnic, line throwing, safety or similar device.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/13/assault_weapons_ban_and_price_speculation/comment-page-1/#comment-7405</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of folks because you can use them to shoot flares. check out www.37mm.com

And, it turns out, some launchers are DDs while others are not.  I don&#039;t know what the criteria for that would be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of folks because you can use them to shoot flares. check out <a href="http://www.37mm.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.37mm.com</a></p>
<p>And, it turns out, some launchers are DDs while others are not.  I don&#8217;t know what the criteria for that would be.</p>
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		<title>By: cube</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/13/assault_weapons_ban_and_price_speculation/comment-page-1/#comment-7404</link>
		<dc:creator>cube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice catch.

&quot; However, the grenades and rockets used in these devices are generally within the definition.&quot;

oh i am sorry.

rifle grenades are not going to be leagal, those are outlawed by some other law, and the ban. so when the ban disappears it will not matter.

of course i have no idea what type of reasonable person would buy the launcher without the grenade</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice catch.</p>
<p>&#8221; However, the grenades and rockets used in these devices are generally within the definition.&#8221;</p>
<p>oh i am sorry.</p>
<p>rifle grenades are not going to be leagal, those are outlawed by some other law, and the ban. so when the ban disappears it will not matter.</p>
<p>of course i have no idea what type of reasonable person would buy the launcher without the grenade</p>
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		<title>By: Heartless Libertarian</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/13/assault_weapons_ban_and_price_speculation/comment-page-1/#comment-7399</link>
		<dc:creator>Heartless Libertarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I&#039;ve noticed, in what appears to be market anticipation of the AWB ending-an increase in the number of vendors selling folding/collapsable stocks in Shotgun News.  TAPCO has a new folder (FAL style-ish) for the AK, and there are tons of M-4 style stocks for AR-15s featured in ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I&#8217;ve noticed, in what appears to be market anticipation of the AWB ending-an increase in the number of vendors selling folding/collapsable stocks in Shotgun News.  TAPCO has a new folder (FAL style-ish) for the AK, and there are tons of M-4 style stocks for AR-15s featured in ads.</p>
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		<title>By: SayUncle</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/13/assault_weapons_ban_and_price_speculation/comment-page-1/#comment-7397</link>
		<dc:creator>SayUncle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay,

He&#039;d sign it if it got to him.  But Delay has said it won&#039;t make it through house, at least during this session.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay,</p>
<p>He&#8217;d sign it if it got to him.  But Delay has said it won&#8217;t make it through house, at least during this session.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay G</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/13/assault_weapons_ban_and_price_speculation/comment-page-1/#comment-7396</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unc,

You really think the AWB is gonna die?

You don&#039;t think GWB will cave and sign an extension? 

(Honest question. Ever since he signed CFR {spit} I haven&#039;t trusted W until the ink is dry - or not.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unc,</p>
<p>You really think the AWB is gonna die?</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t think GWB will cave and sign an extension? </p>
<p>(Honest question. Ever since he signed CFR {spit} I haven&#8217;t trusted W until the ink is dry &#8211; or not.)</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Douglas</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/13/assault_weapons_ban_and_price_speculation/comment-page-1/#comment-7395</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2004 18:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;“rifle grenade launchers”
that is a load of crap, those are outlawed by some other law, and the ban. so when the ban disappears it will not matter to that particluar feature.&quot;

That is not a load of crap.  Rifle grenade launchers are not outlawed.  

From the ATF Firearms FAQ:
(http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm)


(M29) Are grenade and rocket launcher attachments destructive devices? 

Grenade and rocket launcher attachments for use on military type rifles generally do not come within the definition of destructive devices. However, the grenades and rockets used in these devices are generally within the definition. [26 U. S. C. 5845, 27 CFR 179.11] 

Furthermore, if you look at the current version of the Yugo SKS being sold, it sports a rifle grenade launcher.  

http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/SKS_Yugo__Yugoslavian_M59_66_SKS_7_62x39_Rifle.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;“rifle grenade launchers”<br />
that is a load of crap, those are outlawed by some other law, and the ban. so when the ban disappears it will not matter to that particluar feature.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is not a load of crap.  Rifle grenade launchers are not outlawed.  </p>
<p>From the ATF Firearms FAQ:<br />
(<a href="http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/faq2.htm</a>)</p>
<p>(M29) Are grenade and rocket launcher attachments destructive devices? </p>
<p>Grenade and rocket launcher attachments for use on military type rifles generally do not come within the definition of destructive devices. However, the grenades and rockets used in these devices are generally within the definition. [26 U. S. C. 5845, 27 CFR 179.11] </p>
<p>Furthermore, if you look at the current version of the Yugo SKS being sold, it sports a rifle grenade launcher.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/SKS_Yugo__Yugoslavian_M59_66_SKS_7_62x39_Rifle.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/SKS_Yugo__Yugoslavian_M59_66_SKS_7_62x39_Rifle.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: cube</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/13/assault_weapons_ban_and_price_speculation/comment-page-1/#comment-7393</link>
		<dc:creator>cube</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2004 17:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;rifle grenade launchers&quot;
that is a load of crap, those are outlawed by some other law, and the ban.  so when the ban disappears it will not matter to that particluar feature.

and i am waiting to buy also.

secondly, you should by as much guns that you think could be banned (once the ban expires), just because that might change, then you can sell them for a profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;rifle grenade launchers&#8221;<br />
that is a load of crap, those are outlawed by some other law, and the ban.  so when the ban disappears it will not matter to that particluar feature.</p>
<p>and i am waiting to buy also.</p>
<p>secondly, you should by as much guns that you think could be banned (once the ban expires), just because that might change, then you can sell them for a profit.</p>
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		<title>By: Phelps</title>
		<link>http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/07/13/assault_weapons_ban_and_price_speculation/comment-page-1/#comment-7391</link>
		<dc:creator>Phelps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2004 17:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m thinking along the same lines, but from the opposite viewpoint.  There have been a couple of weapons I&#039;ve considered buying, but I am waiting until the sunset to see if there is going to be a price crash (at which point I&#039;ll jump in and scratch a couple of itches.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thinking along the same lines, but from the opposite viewpoint.  There have been a couple of weapons I&#8217;ve considered buying, but I am waiting until the sunset to see if there is going to be a price crash (at which point I&#8217;ll jump in and scratch a couple of itches.)</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shoulda invested in Class III weapons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shoulda invested in Class III weapons.</p>
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