Comments on: Whacking the VPC, Again http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/04/04/whacking-the-vpc-again/ Remember, I do this to entertain me... not you. Sun, 22 Nov 2009 11:33:21 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: SayUncle » The VPC’s alleged study - after the ban http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/04/04/whacking-the-vpc-again/comment-page-1/#comment-142907 SayUncle » The VPC’s alleged study - after the ban Wed, 01 Nov 2006 14:52:50 +0000 /?p=2570#comment-142907 [...] Assuming the information in the table is accurate, and assuming I counted correctly (that’s a big if; please check my numbers), there were 41 perps. At least 22 of these were disqualified from gun possession because of priors or mental illness. [...] [...] Assuming the information in the table is accurate, and assuming I counted correctly (that’s a big if; please check my numbers), there were 41 perps. At least 22 of these were disqualified from gun possession because of priors or mental illness. [...]

]]> By: gunner http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/04/04/whacking-the-vpc-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5231 gunner Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 /?p=2570#comment-5231 Why do they have MAK90(SKS), SKS (AK-47) and AK-47(SKS) listed as weapons. They are not the same. I like how they, the anti-gun nuts, go out of their way to define Assault rifles in the courts, then label everything "Assault weapons". Why do they have MAK90(SKS), SKS (AK-47) and AK-47(SKS) listed as weapons. They are not the same.
I like how they, the anti-gun nuts, go out of their way to define Assault rifles in the courts, then label everything “Assault weapons”.

]]> By: Bill http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/04/04/whacking-the-vpc-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5232 Bill Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 /?p=2570#comment-5232 2 of the incidents used a Mini-14, which is specifically NOT an "ugly rifle". 2 of the incidents used a Mini-14, which is specifically NOT an “ugly rifle”.

]]> By: Thibodeaux http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/04/04/whacking-the-vpc-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5233 Thibodeaux Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 /?p=2570#comment-5233 Well, the Mini-14 fires the same ammumition as the High-Powered Assault Sniper Rifle used by Malvo and Mohammed. And the AK/SKS shoot the notorious Armor-Piercing Cop-Killer 7.62x39mm ammo. Seriously, though, are you surprised that the VPC tries to inflate the numbers? Well, the Mini-14 fires the same ammumition as the High-Powered Assault Sniper Rifle used by Malvo and Mohammed. And the AK/SKS shoot the notorious Armor-Piercing Cop-Killer 7.62×39mm ammo.

Seriously, though, are you surprised that the VPC tries to inflate the numbers?

]]> By: Nate http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/04/04/whacking-the-vpc-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5234 Nate Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 /?p=2570#comment-5234 Maybe it's just me... but I can't even find a definition of what they call an "assault weapon." They sure aren't using the term how I would use it, and they don't have a clear definition of it, either. (That I could find.) Interpret that as you see fit... Maybe it’s just me… but I can’t even find a definition of what they call an “assault weapon.” They sure aren’t using the term how I would use it, and they don’t have a clear definition of it, either. (That I could find.) Interpret that as you see fit…

]]> By: Wince and Nod http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/04/04/whacking-the-vpc-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5235 Wince and Nod Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 /?p=2570#comment-5235 Any weaopon used in an assault? Yours, Wince Any weaopon used in an assault?

Yours,
Wince

]]> By: Kevin Baker http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/04/04/whacking-the-vpc-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5236 Kevin Baker Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 /?p=2570#comment-5236 Instalanch! Cool. I'm with you Uncle. Back a long time ago I fisked the "one in five" meme showing that nineteen of the 41 "assault weapons" weren't. I hadn't thought to see how many of the perpetrators were prohibited persons, though. Instalanch! Cool.

I’m with you Uncle. Back a long time ago I fisked the “one in five” meme showing that nineteen of the 41 “assault weapons” weren’t. I hadn’t thought to see how many of the perpetrators were prohibited persons, though.

]]> By: Walter Wallis http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/04/04/whacking-the-vpc-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5237 Walter Wallis Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 /?p=2570#comment-5237 I just had a great idea! Why don't we pass a law that makes it illegal for someone who is not allowed to have a weapon to have a weapon? Then our problems will all be solved. I just had a great idea!
Why don’t we pass a law that makes it illegal for someone who is not allowed to have a weapon to have a weapon? Then our problems will all be solved.

]]> By: Thibodeaux http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/04/04/whacking-the-vpc-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5238 Thibodeaux Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 /?p=2570#comment-5238 We also need to tighten the loopholes in the Murder Ban laws that allow these murders to happen in the first place! We also need to tighten the loopholes in the Murder Ban laws that allow these murders to happen in the first place!

]]> By: Noname http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/04/04/whacking-the-vpc-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5239 Noname Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 /?p=2570#comment-5239 Is an M1 carbine covered under the AWB? It certainly doesn't shoot the same cop killin' dum-dum bullet as the Mini-14 Is an M1 carbine covered under the AWB? It certainly doesn’t shoot the same cop killin’ dum-dum bullet as the Mini-14

]]> By: Thibodeaux http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/04/04/whacking-the-vpc-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5240 Thibodeaux Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 /?p=2570#comment-5240 The M1 Carbine, as far as I know, is not specifically named in the ban. However, since it is fed by a detachable magazine (and has a bayonet lug), you could easily turn one into an "assault weapon" by replacing the GI stock, for example, with one having a pistol grip. The VPC are getting wise. They've realized the idiocy of the "evil features" definition, which includes such howlers as the bayonet lug and grenade launcher. Instead, <a href="http://saysuncle.com/archives/002361.html">as I blogged about earlier</a>, they're focusing on two things: "high-capacity" detachable magazines and pistol grips. They are pushing to make these the defining criteria, along with a longer list of specific models (which I do believe includes the SKS and the M1 Carbine). We may have dodged a bullet (so to speak) with the recent lawsuit bill, but this fight ain't over, not by a long shot. The M1 Carbine, as far as I know, is not specifically named in the ban. However, since it is fed by a detachable magazine (and has a bayonet lug), you could easily turn one into an “assault weapon” by replacing the GI stock, for example, with one having a pistol grip.

The VPC are getting wise. They’ve realized the idiocy of the “evil features” definition, which includes such howlers as the bayonet lug and grenade launcher. Instead, as I blogged about earlier, they’re focusing on two things: “high-capacity” detachable magazines and pistol grips. They are pushing to make these the defining criteria, along with a longer list of specific models (which I do believe includes the SKS and the M1 Carbine).

We may have dodged a bullet (so to speak) with the recent lawsuit bill, but this fight ain’t over, not by a long shot.

]]> By: Gerard M. Delaney http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/04/04/whacking-the-vpc-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5241 Gerard M. Delaney Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 /?p=2570#comment-5241 Wasn't the M1 Carbine issued specifically to non-rifelmen (cooks, bakers, admin, artillery, etc) instead of a heavy Garand or a scarce pistol? Hardly the audience for an "assault weapon." Wasn’t the M1 Carbine issued specifically to non-rifelmen (cooks, bakers, admin, artillery, etc) instead of a heavy Garand or a scarce pistol? Hardly the audience for an “assault weapon.”

]]> By: homebru http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/04/04/whacking-the-vpc-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5242 homebru Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 /?p=2570#comment-5242 Perhaps we should be very careful about suggesting, even in jest, silly laws that cannot and will not have any effect on outlaws. Some damn fool might decide to pass such and then blame us. Perhaps we should be very careful about suggesting, even in jest, silly laws that cannot and will not have any effect on outlaws. Some damn fool might decide to pass such and then blame us.

]]> By: Thibodeaux http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/04/04/whacking-the-vpc-again/comment-page-1/#comment-5243 Thibodeaux Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 /?p=2570#comment-5243 Gerard: I think you are more-or-less correct, but I do believe some front-line troops also carried the carbine---e.g., paratroops. Gerard:

I think you are more-or-less correct, but I do believe some front-line troops also carried the carbine—e.g., paratroops.

]]> By: SayUncle : VPC continues to dance in the blood of dead people http://www.saysuncle.com/2004/04/04/whacking-the-vpc-again/comment-page-1/#comment-11109 SayUncle : VPC continues to dance in the blood of dead people Wed, 31 Dec 1969 19:00:00 +0000 /?p=2570#comment-11109 [...] earm-related death and injury. Actually, the VPC conducts no real research. They tend to <a href="http://www.saysuncle.com/archives/2004/04/04/whacking-the-vpc-again/">make</a> it up. | Link | | Category: Guns | Comments» [...] [...] earm-related death and injury. Actually, the VPC conducts no real research. They tend to make it up.
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